The dismantling of the right to abortion established under Roe v Wade has left many clinicians angry, uncertain, and in dire need of legal advice. If that describes you – speak to a lawyer! Don’t get your legal advice from a podcast, you silly goose. But first: you might want to listen to this conversation with Stanford’s Michelle Mello, a law and health policy professor. Her work examines the intersection of health, law, and ethics; in a recent article in JAMA, Michelle and co-author Kayte Spector-Bagdady suggest that protecting patients and practitioners from legal jeopardy in the post-Dobbs age may require us to rethink what information we put in the medical record.